Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat / Kushal Choksi - Surviving 9/11 and an Awakening on Wall Street

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Today's guest is my friend, Kushal Choksi.

This episode was originally intended to release on September 11 to coincide with the release of Kushal's new book, On a Wing and a Prayer, but the book's release was delayed, and as a result, the episode too. Nevertheless, an event as monumentally impactful to the world like 9/11 is not only worth discussing on its anniversary, so we decided the timing isn't that important. Please forgive any discrepancies.

Kushal was a Wall Street trader with his focus on little else but amassing wealth and achieving the American Dream. Witnessing the devastation of 9/11 before his eyes and narrowly escaping death, Kushal’s life was never going to be the same again. All his pursuits became meaningless and he felt a void within him like he had never felt before.

Then, one day, he reluctantly decided to spend an afternoon with a spiritual master in New York City, unknowingly embarking on a quest to find answers to life’s biggest questions.

Listen as we discuss:

  • Kushal's former life as the prototypical Wall Street finance type.
  • How he recalls September 11, 2001, the day he nearly died and witnessed true horror.
  • The voice in his head that told him to run from the tower instead of going back in.
  • How he began to feel that all time after 9/11 was "bonus time."
  • His initial confusion about what do with the newfound gratitude to be alive.
  • Our attempts at shaking things up are normally empty, canned, and conditioned.
  • The catharsis of a first experience with meditation and how Kushal never looked back.
  • Sky Breath meditation, the first thing that worked after his "spiritual shopping."
  • The language of mental growth is effortlessness
  • When you're on the train, running back and forth on the train won't get you there faster.
  • What's the point of it all?

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