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Chris is on holiday this week, so Kyle and Michael are taking the armband - quite literally - as they discuss what it's like to a lead a team. They're joined by the former Everton and England skipper Phil Jagielka to discuss what makes a great captain and why.

The trio look back on their careers as leaders and whether they were made or moulded; who their leadership heroes were; the best captains they played under - and the worst - what it's like to face up the media as the skipper; when can you be a friend to your teammates and when you have to be the police; and what sort of responsibilities a modern leader has when the manager takes control of so much of the on-pitch decision making.

Phil and Kyle discuss leadership roles at international level and how that differs from being a club captain, and then the current Manchester City skipper talks about the responsibility of taking over the armband of the Premier League champions, the legacy his predecessors left him at the Etihad, and what it was like to raise that trophy above his head at the end of last season.