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Violent White Nationalism - View from the Inside, with Arno Michaelis, Part 2

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Violent White Nationalism - View from the Inside, with Arno Michaelis, Part 2. Arno Michaelis is a speaker, author of My Life After Hate, co-author of The Gift of Our Wounds, Filmmaker, and Peacebuilding Consultant. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Arno was a leader of hate groups, and frontman of the hate-metal band Centurion before single parenthood, love for his daughter, and the forgiveness shown by people he once hated helped to change his world, bringing love for diversity and gratitude for all life.

1:09 It's so the not even the parable, but the image of the, you know, the frogs in the slowly boiling water. Yeah. Like, oh, this is a little warm. It's kind of nice. So it's okay. Really hot now, but I'm really sweating the next day, you know, and you're done. And, and quite often violent extremism happens in that way.

5:04 a paraphrase of Sun Tzu. He said, If you know yourself, and you know your enemy, you need not fear the result of 100 battles, because you will prevail in all of them. He said, If you don't one or the other, you're gonna win half your battles. If you don't know, either yourself or your enemy, you will not win a single battle.

15:23 So it wasn't like the Pyramids of Giza were built, like as a volunteer community project.

18:22 She worked on Thursday nights and Seinfeld aired, and I had to tape it for her back on those archaic VCR things that always blinked 12. And we couldn't write Seinfeld on the spine of the tape. Because if my guys came by and saw that it had shot I mean, it was the very least it would it would diminish my position in our group, but that the worst I could have been like killed for it.

29:00 And he basically says it's it's easy to feel kinship with people who look like you pray like you eat like you smell like you like that's easy, but what is truly spiritual is to feel that same kinship with people who don't look like you, and don't pray like you and don't eat like you don't smell like you don't speak like you like that that's when you really attained a sense of spirituality.