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Is Putin playing Trump on Ukraine?


Published: 24 April 2025 at 07:00 Europe/London

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Episode notes

As the US piles pressure on Kyiv and Moscow to do a deal, Nick talks to Fiona Hill who advised Donald Trump on Russia during his first term in the White House.

She tells him what she makes of the peace deal proposed by the US (7:26), what it was like advising President Trump (10:08) and how Putin manipulates him (28:38).

Also Nick and Amol are reunited for Moment of the Week (40:40).

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The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson who are both presenters of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. Amol was the BBC’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the BBC’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor.

This episode was made by Lewis Vickers with Izzy Rowley. Digital production was by Izzy Rowley. The technical producer was Abbey Wiltshire. The editor is Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths.

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