First Fuel
By Energy Efficiency Council
Hosted by Energy Efficiency Council CEO Luke Menzel, First Fuel brings you the latest perspectives on energy efficiency, energy management and demand response from Australia and around the world.
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99: 'Never a dull moment' with Jai Thomas
On this episode of First Fuel we're joined by Jai Thomas, Coordinator of Energy at Energy Policy WA. As Luke notes in the episode, Jai's role boils down to keeping 'the lights on and the fuels flowi… -
98: 'Green steel is existential for Australia' with Dr. Saul Griffith
On this episode of First Fuel we bring you a chat between Luke and Dr. Saul Griffith, co-founder of Rewiring America and -
97: Energy governance and paint sticks with Rob Murray-Leach
On this episode of First Fuel Luke is joined by the Energy Efficiency Council's founding CEO and long-time Head of Policy, Rob Murray-Leach.Now an independent consultant, Rob has commissioned by the EEC and -
96: 'A COP is a many-splendored thing' with Chris Bowen
On this episode of First Fuel, Luke is joined by Australia's Minister for Energy and Climate Change, Chris Bowen.Recorded live at the EEC National Conference 2025, they discuss what hos… -
95: Australia's energy report card with Brendan French
On this episode of First Fuel we're joined by Energy Consumers Australia CEO Brendan French to discuss ECA's -
94: Doubling down with Josh Wilson
On this special episode of First Fuel we catch up with Australia's Assistant Minster for Climate and Energy Josh Wilson on the ground at COP29 in Azerbaijan. Luke and Josh discuss the impact of Donald Trump's election on g… -
93: Zero carbon mindset with Brad Archer
On this episode of First Fuel we're joined by Climate Change Authority CEO Brad Archer to dig into their latest blockbuster … -
92: Politics, purpose and net zero pathways with Matt Kean
On 1 August, Matt Kean will become chair of the https://www.climatechangeauthority.gov.au/. Over a parliamentary career spanning 13 years with two state premiers, Kean has been NSW's Treasurer, Environment Minister, Innovation Minister, Energy Minist… -
91: Decisions for a big decade: Victoria’s Energy and Climate Action Minister Lily D’Ambrosio
In Episode 91 of First Fuel, EEC CEO Luke Menzel is joined by Victoria’s Minister for Climate Action, Energy and Resources, and Minister for State Electricity Commission, Lily D’Ambrosio. As Australia’s longest serving cur… -
90: We’re back! With Amory Lovins and a discussion on Australia’s energy future.
First Fuel returns with a very special episode this month, featuring none other than Amory Lovins, co-founder of RMI and an Adjunct Professor at Stanford Un…