Don't Listen To Us with Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody

Why We’re All Addicted to Our Phones


Published: 3 June 2026 at 08:30 Europe/London

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Episode notes

A teen asks the question we’re all struggling with: how do you protect your mental health when your phone, social media, and the news cycle never stop? We talk doomscrolling, screen time and the pressure to always be “plugged in.” And, what’s the best excuse to get out of a social obligation? We debate the most believable exits to cancel plans and the guilt of saying no. Plus, can Kathryn survive a pop culture quiz? Does she know who Taylor Swift is dating? 

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Chapters:

00:00 - Gideon Grody-Patinkin finally comes out from behind the camera! 

00:28 - Kathryn Grody takes a pop culture quiz. Who’s Taylor Swift dating? What’s main character syndrome? And what are girl dinners? 

03:51 - A teen listener asks about phone addiction and how to maintain your mental health. 

05:15 - How to combat doomscrolling with joy and hope.

11:57 - Family guest Ivan Cash suggests phone boundaries that can help with phone addiction. 

12:54 - Nightly doomscrolling before bed. Are alarm clocks the solution?

16:39 - A phone meditation you can do too.

22:50 - How do you work with family without ruining the relationship? Gideon asks for a friend. 

25:30 - What’s the best excuse to get out of a social obligation? 

26:47 - We debate the best and most believable injuries to cancel plans. 

33:21 - Can we be honest about not wanting to go? The guilt of saying no to social obligations.

34:00 - Goodbyes. Credits. Thank yous!

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