Between the Leaves

The Natural World

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Episode notes

Hosts Ellen van Neerven, Hermina Burns | Music (Intro) Loop Lady - 2. In the Middle by Sally Whitwell; (outro) Black Smoke by Emily Wurramara | Creative Producers Ellen van Neerven, Hermina Burns | Co-producers Mary Crooks AO, Maria Chetcuti, Ally Oliver-Perham | Sound engineer Nicholas Pollock | Recording Squeak E. Clean Studio, the Voice Plant | Graphic design Aimee Carruthers


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