Changes with Annie Macmanus

Bella Mackie on anxiety and OCD, marriage and hating wellness

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Episode notes

Our first guest of the series is the phenomenally popular author Bella Mackie. Bella’s debut novel ‘How To Kill Your Family’ was a #1 Sunday Times Bestseller and lined the top 10 book charts for a staggering 47 weeks. It has just been announced that Netflix will adapt the book with Anya Taylor-Joy starring as Grace Bernard. 


Bella is back with a brand new novel ‘What a Way To Go’ which comes out on 12th September. It’s a story that indulges Bella’s fascination with slapstick murder and the mega rich, something Annie and Bella discuss.


Bella is, like her books, funny and raw, in a way that feels so relatable. In this refreshingly honest conversation, Annie and Bella talk about Bella’s life living with anxiety disorder and OCD since her childhood and how running and writing about it in her memoir ‘Jog On’ have helped her through some of the most challenging times. Bella speaks openly about her short-lived first marriage, her relationship with Greg James (Radio 1’s Breakfast host) and the personal growth that is often born out of romantic relationships. They also discuss privilege, not having children and Bella’s passionate hatred for wellness. Hope you enjoy! 


Order Bella's new book 'What A Way To Go' here: https://smarturl.it/WAWTG


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