ITV 6 Nations Rugby Podcast

Whites Hot, Reds Raw

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Episode notes

With Shanks literally on the first flight out of Japan following Wales's agonising defeat to South Africa, he and Flats are in sombre mood - despite England's extraordinary victory over the Kiwis in the other semi-final. But they still manage to scrutinise both matches with characteristic verve, insight and humour before he is booted out of his hotel.