Making The Change

Deep rooted? That's just an excuse

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Episode notes

Nik and Eva Speakman have a pet hate, and it’s when people are told their issues are too ‘deep rooted’ to be resolved. If you weren’t born with a phobia or anxiety, you can get over it. To prove this point, they’re joined by listener Nina who suffered with emetophobia (a fear of vomit) for 57 years, before having her perspective changed in under 10 minutes at one of The Speakmans’ workshops.


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