meredith for real: the curious introvert
Ep. 344: Lucid Dreams & OBEs: One Researches. The Other Explores it First Hand.
Published: 18 May 2026 at 06:00 Europe/London
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Do dreams happen in our minds? What can lucid dreaming tell us about the nature of consciousness?
Dave Green is a London-based artist who creates drawings not FROM his dreams, but IN his dreams, which he re-creates upon waking. He’s the author of Doodles In the Dark: An Artist's Guide to Lucid Dreaming & has participated in lucid & precognitive dream research with my other guest, Damon Abraham, PhD, a parapsychologist & the principal research scientist for the consciousness mobile app Entangled.
In this episode, Dave shows us how he uses lucid dreaming to create art WHILE he’s dreaming & Dr. Abraham unpacks the science of the research behind it. You’ll hear about the layers of lucid dreaming, when it becomes an out of body experience & how this may be connected to precognition, the debate about where consciousness lives & why Dave is hesitant to label himself as anything other than a lucid dreaming artist.
If you liked this episode, you’ll also like episode 308: HOW TO THINK IMPOSSIBLY: PRECOGNITION, POLTERGEISTS & TIME
Guests:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEf56ussbNkUwXYOBjNQIqg
https://www.instagram.com/davegreen5000/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/damon-abraham-phd/
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0:00 — Dreams as Art: Meet Dave Green & Dr. Damon Abraham
1:06 — Drawing Inside a Lucid Dream
3:02 — Waking Yourself Up On Purpose
3:26 — What Lucid Dreaming Actually Is
5:02 — Control vs. Awareness in the Dream State
7:04 — How Both Guests Discovered Lucid Dreaming
8:56 — Is a Nightmare Origin Story the Norm?
10:10 — Lucid Dreaming vs. Out-of-Body Experiences
12:08 — Why "OBE" Is a Loaded Label
15:03 — Do Dreams Happen Inside Your Head?
18:23 — Researcher Hat vs. Experiencer Hat
19:40 — Damon's OBE: The Bathroom Journal Story
22:26 — The Lottie Dream Portrait Walkthrough
28:22 — Precognition & Verifying What You See
29:41 — Did the Telepathy Tapes Help This Research?
32:14 — Lucid Dreaming Is More Common Than You Think
35:11 — Brainwaves During a Lucid Dream
36:20 — How Dave Navigates Dream Scenery
39:11 — Dave's Portrait Technique
41:23 — The Precognition Experiment Explained
45:18 — The Temptation to Avoid Uncomfortable Conclusions
48:50 — Is the Brain Generating or Receiving Consciousness?
51:21 — Has This Changed How You See Reality?
54:55 — The Real-World Utility of Lucid Dreaming
58:16 — Dave's Dream Yoga Practice
1:00:53 — Third Person Dreams & What They Mean
1:01:44 — Giving a Dream Character a Pen
1:04:57 — Why You Should Start a Dream Journal
1:06:12 — Dave's Book & Dream Portraits
1:07:33 — Damon's Entangled App
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