ReFi Podcast

Unlocking The Value Of Carbon With Robin Klemens │ Season 3 Episode 17 🎧

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Episode notes

Welcome to the latest episode of the Refi Podcast where John Ellison sits down with Robin Klemens, CEO and Founder of KUMO.

KUMO started with a groundbreaking concept - a natural capital-backed stablecoin, aiming to redefine how we use money. Their vision? To create a currency that not only facilitates transactions but also actively protects and restores nature.

Robin shares the intensive journey of KUMO, from interviewing project developers to engaging with institutional capital allocators. We delve into their latest innovation - a lending protocol that allows depositing carbon credits, tokenized into Kumo, to secure loans in US dollars or Euros. This unique approach eliminates the need for crypto involvement in the transaction, attracting significant interest from top-tier banks.

Robin and John discuss the increasing trend of banks looking to lend against carbon credits, seeing nature as a diversified asset in their portfolios. This shift is driven by both regulatory pressures and a growing desire in the banking sector to invest in nature and decarbonize heavily carbon-footprinted portfolios.

Join us as we delve into the complex world of project developers and institutional capital allocators. Robin provides intriguing insights into the future of this market, looking ahead at the next 12, 18, and 24 months.

In this episode, you will:

🌱 Learn about KUMO's transformation from a natural capital-backed stablecoin to an innovative lending protocol using carbon credits.

🏦 Discover how KUMO's approach is attracting top-tier banks to invest in nature as a valuable asset in their portfolios.

💡 Gain insights into the challenges of climate change and how regenerative finance is evolving to meet these challenges using web 3 technologies.

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Time Stamps:

[00:00:00] Teaser

[00:00:30] Introduction

[00:02:34] Check-in With Robin

[00:03:24] What Is KUMO?

[00:04:01] The Original Vision Of A Nature Backed Currency

[00:07:48] The Obstacles In Bringing The Vision To Life

[00:18:20] The Market Response & COP28

[00:22:54] AHA Moments With Institutional Actors

[00:29:04] The Composability Layer

[00:37:06] The Partnership With Solid World

[00:39:00] Unpacking The Black Hat

[00:46:31] What’s Coming Next?

[00:49:48] Unlicking A Unique Value

[00:55:11] Staying Centered And Grounded

A special thanks to Marcio Vilela for the beautiful art photography on the wall from his Superflora collection in the Amazon.

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#RefiPodcast, #Kumo, #SustainableFinance, #CarbonCredits, #JohnEllison, #RobinKlemens, #ClimateChange, #Innovation

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