The General & the Journalist
By The Times
How wars start, how they are won and what they leave behind them.
General Sir Patrick Sanders and Tom Newton Dunn first met in a war zone. Drawing on their real-life experience of armed conflict, they bring you the latest from Ukraine, Gaza and the dozens of other bitter struggles being fought across our increasingly divided planet.
From interviews with key people on the frontlines of modern warfare to discussing the future of nuclear weapons and where Russia will attack next, this podcast from The Times and The Sunday Times also faces up to the biggest question - how ready are we for war, right now, if we had to fight one?
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How AI drones are changing the war in Ukraine
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Inside the 8,000ft rescue jump onto Tristan da Cunha
How Britain keeps its overseas territories safe -

Who is really running Iran now?
Power shifts in Iran from the clerics towards the Revolutionary Guards -

Trump-Xi summit: Has Iran flipped the balance of power?
As President Trump lands in Beijing for his summit with Xi, Patrick and Tom are joined by China analyst, Sam Olsen, to discuss whether Iran has flipped the balance of power between the rivals.Sam argues the war has degraded America… -

Putin ‘will flood Europe with criminals and fighters after the war’
Estonia's foreign minister, Margus Tsahkna, says Putin will flood Europe with the criminals he recruited to fight in Ukraine once the war ends. With Russia unable to reintegrate thousands of 'psychologically crazy' ex-combatants back in… -

Why America needs NATO
General Christopher Cavoli was NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) until July 2025. He was responsible for the defence and security of 981 million people across 32 countries. Ooph. While on a flying visit to Londo… -

What Trump’s mistakes in Iran teach all of us
As America finds itself in a trapped quagmire of its own making, dragging its reputation and the world economy down with it. Patrick and Tom are joined by the former deputy assistant to President Trump, Fiona Hill, to chew over the lessons thrown … -

Russia’s nuclear bomb threat to satellites - Head of US Space Command
From Russia's nuclear threat to satellites, the prospect of a permanent lunar station, and the hopes of Artemis, Patrick and Tom could barely contain their space-geek excitement at speaking with General Whiting, head of US Space Command.… -

A rescue mission behind enemy lines, F-bomb tweets and 'a whole civilisation will die'
Having first demanded that Iran 'open the fucking strait', President Trump followed up with a post vowing 'an entire civilisation will die tonight' if it did not do so. But could any such order ever be legal, and would the American… -

Q&A: From Xi's PLA purges to Trump's Nato threats, your biggest questions answered
For their Easter special, Tom and Patrick turn the entire show over to you. They answer as many listener questions as possible that have landed in the General & Journalist inbox since Christmas. Among them: whether Europe could defend…