The Pastor's Table
Shaping Culture in Churches with Randy Frazee (Part 2)
Published: 3 March 2025 at 10:00 Europe/London
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What makes a church healthy—not just successful?
In this episode, Rev. Tara Beth Leach and Dr. Mark Quanstrom continue their conversation with Randy Frazee, exploring how culture—not just strategy—determines a church’s future.
Randy shares how his leadership philosophy has shifted over the years—from top-down leadership models to team-based collaboration, from focusing on numbers to prioritizing engagement. His wisdom is a must-hear for pastors wrestling with staff culture, leadership expectations, and burnout.
🎙️ In This Episode:
- Why culture eats strategy for breakfast—and how to shape it well.
- How collaborative leadership (instead of top-down models) creates healthier churches.
- Why self-awareness and humility matter more than being a "visionary leader."
- How pastors can embrace their strengths instead of trying to do it all.
📌 Highlights:
- [00:06:00] The danger of fear-based leadership and how Randy’s approach has changed.
- [00:12:00] “We stopped counting attendance and started measuring engagement.”
- [00:19:00] Why hiring well means knowing what you’re bad at.
- [00:24:00] Moving from ownership to stewardship—how to stop making church about you.
💡 Takeaway:
Pastors don’t have to be everything to everyone. True leadership comes from embracing your strengths, surrounding yourself with the right people, and fostering a culture where others thrive.
