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Can governments do everything? With Sir John Manzoni and Libby Mason

Can governments do everything? With Sir John Manzoni and Libby Mason

The Green Room


Published: 11 March 2025 at 03:00 Europe/London

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Better healthcare and schools. More jobs. A growing economy. Improved infrastructure. Planet-saving solutions and disruptive technology. Anything else?

As the list for what would improve our lives gets longer, our demand on governments around the world gets greater. In fact, research shows our expectations are at an all-time high.  

But can all the things that the world needs really be delivered by new policies, new budgets and new leaders alone? Or is it our expectations that need to change?

The world has changed, but the ways in which the state tries to change the world have largely stayed the same. A combination of taxation, spend and policy are traditionally used to improve things, but is it time to try something new? And if demand continues to increase and challenges continue to grow, then what will future governments look like?  

In this episode of The Green Room we talk to Sir John Manzoni, former Permanent Secretary for the Cabinet Office and Chief Executive of the UK Civil Service and Deloitte partner Libby Mason, as we ask; Can governments do everything?

Tune in to find out: 

  • Why our expectations of the state have changed
  • The opportunities for greater collaboration between the public and private sectors
  • How traditional systems can be adapted to meet new expectations
  • The role technology can play in helping governments deliver improved service

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Guests: Sir John Manzoni, former Permanent Secretary for the Cabinet Office and Chief Executive of the UK Civil Service, and Libby Mason, partner at Deloitte

Hosts: Stephanie Dobbs and Oli Carpenter

Original music: Ali Barrett

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