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Alarm bells are ringing that people don’t realise the sheer scale of lifestyle changes needed to meet climate targets and “net zero”.

At the same time, voters see governments balance the books off their backs, and fail to hit the big targets and big business.

The authors of an annual “state of the state” report pull all that together in our featured interview with the backdrop of another painful budget.

It’s not all doom and gloom, though. But where do they find the positives?