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Right now our society feels more polarized than ever. We don't agree on much—and sometimes the people we disagree with most are the ones who are closest to us. This week, we talk about how to handle those difficult relationships and conversations with Brit Barron, author of the new book DO YOU STILL TALK TO GRANDMA?

Brit Barron is a highly sought after speaker on the topics of sexuality, spirituality, race, storytelling, and personal development. In this interview, Brit, Margaret, and Amy discuss:

  • Why our brains are attracted to binary thinking— and we can become stuck in it
  • How the biological imperative to find "cognitive closure" can shut us off from new ideas
  • Why the knee-jerk reaction to write off those with whom we disagree online gets more complicated when we apply those rules to some of the people we love most
  • How to get more humble about the things we might not know (yet)


Here's where you can find Brit:


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