World in 10

The phone call that could change the world

The phone call that could change the world

World in 10


Published: 17 March 2025 at 16:24 UTC

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On Tuesday Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin will discuss Ukraine's future with the US President trying to persuade his Russian counterpart to agree to a ceasefire at least. So what goes into these diplomatic calls? Who plans them, how much are the plans adhered to and what is the ideal outcome for both sides? Think tank RUSI's Russian domestic politics specialist Emily Ferris and The Times' Assistant US Editor, David Charter, analyse how Putin and Trump are gearing up for a call the outcome of which whole world is waiting for.


The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists. 

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